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Post by Rey » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:24 am

At 4:24 the statement is made "None of us chose to be born into this world."

Yet according to the NDE, it is quite typical to see:

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness suggesting that there either is (or is not) continued existence after earthly life (“life after death”)?

Sheila EP NDE -Yes.That we choose to come to earth, (from our heavenly home), because clearly we have a mission or a reason for wanting to be here on earth. Seems like a very organized system.


Linda G's NDE - Yes. I came to understand that we all choose to come to earth to fulfill a plan of some sort or even learn about a particular interest. We choose our bodies and parents and life plan. May I also add that some people come here for the most simplest of reasons to learn how to play tennis for example or simply for the cake and food, as silly as this sounds our life plans aren't so high and lofty as one might think. I DIDN'T MEET ANY SAVE THE WORLDERS OR ANYONE WISHING TO BE A PRESIDENT. MOST HAD SIMPLE WISHES. I was also told we could exist on different planes for another lives but our life here on earth is a life purely to experience physical pleasure or pain but to have a physical experience because all other planes we don't need a body as a vessel. I also learnt that this life here is just a drop of water in the bucket of lives in which we all experience, many here on Earth & many in other realms of existence. All to progress and grow in some way. The main purpose here is to LOVE. I was also told that this would be my last life here on Earth as there will be nothing left for me to learn by coming here again. I had the feeling though that I'd be off to some other magical place!

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Post by Garry » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:43 am

At 4:24 the statement is made "None of us chose to be born into this world."

Yet according to the NDE, it is quite typical to see:

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness suggesting that there either is (or is not) continued existence after earthly life (“life after death”)?

Sheila EP NDE -Yes.That we choose to come to earth, (from our heavenly home), because clearly we have a mission or a reason for wanting to be here on earth. Seems like a very organized system.
And yes I agree that many Experiencers have said the same thing,

The videos were just posted for the enjoyment and the various other things that are being said.

as an example one statement about , that not only do we kill to eat, for the pleasure we derive from the taste of meat, but we raise beings , to Kill just for the pleasure of the taste ....

I admit I like meat and chicken and fish, and money and all the other crap that this life has subjected us to, but it did make me think about what he said.....

that not only do we kill to eat, for the pleasure we derive from the taste of meat, but we raise beings , to Kill just for the pleasure of the taste ....
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Post by Garry » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:46 am

This is also a 1988 movie that always strikes a chord with me and I am seeing many, many short clips of it all over facebook so its not just me who is thinking about it...
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Post by Rey » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:39 am

And some kill simply for the sake of killing.

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The intent isnt to criticize, but instead to raise the issue about the seeming contradictions of information before us regarding this life and what the NDE reports (philosophical & otherwise).

Inclusion of Linda G's NDE statement is very premeditated. It is effectively stated in a good number of NDEes something to the effect that this life should be viewed more so as a stage or play act and that what are deemed horrors are sort of not really real (or dont really count or matter in the grand big picture).

Then there are many shades of interpretation presented which lie on either side of such a view. Some even say something to the effect to forget it (bad behaviors and even atrocities) as in the end all of us end up being unconditionally loved.

All Im saying (or emphasizing) for now It that it is a mystery.
As such, I say that Im in agreement with Nancy Evans Bush when she states,

"I think that whatever this is, we are engaged in a gigantic mystery which is both beautiful & terrible, sometimes at the same time, and it simply behooves us to do our best with that however we can and with whatever that may mean to us.

Basically, I think if we can learn to be decent to each other, we will have gone a long distance to answering questions of meaning and purpose and maybe even some of the answers hidden on that high shelf.
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Post by Garry » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:27 pm

What if

We quite often here the expression similar to:
  • God
  • or the Source
  • or the Universe
What if
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Post by sunlionspirit » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:08 am

big question : nobody made the choice to live in this world ? says the man in the video .. but we hear from the NDE experience that we make a conscious choice up there in spirit world to come to this world .... so .... maybe here on earth there are just only newborn, new created SPIRITS coming here for experience, so did not make the choice to come here, were send d'office here because necessary for their evolution .... but on the same time there are here on earth millions of embodied "old" spirits who are here by choice to help and sustain the flow of life ! I think some spirits come here on earth only to be guides and to permit to have some protection and help for the newborn spirits .....
Another question is : why should we come back on earth to make the experience and to learn to love each other and the universe if in "heaven" we are already surrounded by love, loving and understanding the whole love possible ??? what can we learn more then when coming back to earth ?
I think the answer is : to learn not the love only but the UNCONDITIONNAL love, the one for the ennemy, the one without any condition of return of love, the difficult love for everything because there up in "heaven afterlife" we do not have bad people, enemies, so there we can not learn to "love" them unconditionnaly up there ..... that must be the reason .....

Oh, I just now did read the other reactions up here, did answer so quickly without reading the reactions first ... I see other people have the same question .... fascinating stuff oh yes !

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